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If you do them, you're a loser.

If you don't do them...well, you're a loser.
 

Admit it; you've done drugs.
Or...maybe you haven't.
The question that I want to know the answer to is: WHY?
    
Why do you do them?
Why don't you do them?

Yep, it's time for another installment of The Truth.

Previous installments include: The Crush Entry.
Also: The Parallel You Entry.
Also: The Memory You'll Never Lose Entry.
Also: The Fetish / Kink Entry.

{All of those entries are still open for commenting}

So here's what I want to know...

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DEAL WITH YOU AND DRUGS?

If you use them, when did you start? 
What did you start with?
Was there peer pressure involved?
How old were you, where were you, had you planned it all out ahead of time?
When did you do your first "hard" drug?
What do you like most about your drug of choice?
Would you stop if you could or do you wish you'd started sooner?
What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us?

If you don't use 'em, then why not?
Did you start and then stop?
Are you afraid of them?
Do you want to start but can't figure out how?
How do you feel when you find out that somebody you know does drugs?
Do you find yourself looking down on them or being envious?
What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us?

Me, I'm fascinated by drugs, in both a positive and negative way. You're not going to hear what, if anything, I do. Not directly, at least. Probably. Maybe some of you know, most of you probably don't. I will tell you that I'm fascinated by the more natural hallucinogenics like mushrooms and DMT. Shared hallucinations and insights that can be gained absolutely intrigue me. Not that I've ever done any or want to try some or get me some or never mind, drugs are bad.

Okay, maybe I was briefly addicted to ephedrine in college, but maybe I got out of that.

So...pot? 
E? 
Horse tranquilizers?
Lickable toads?
Bone marrow samples from Keith Richards?
Chemically-altered Mr. Pibb?

Step up to the table.

Tell us what you want...

...and we'll tell you if we've got it.

Finally, would this be even more awesome on drugs?


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From:boomstick
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:39 pm (UTC)
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Pretty much every bad thing I've done was spawned from curiosity and boredom. I used to smoke a lot of pot because I was curious and bored. Not really any peer pressure, though. People would offer but were relieved when I said no 'cause more pot for them!

I eventually stopped because I felt like squatting in the woods and sucking on a sloppy joint was a very high school thing to do. Now I'll do it very very rarely, but only with friends. Also I hate the way I feel when I'm high. Usually when I do it it's out of boredom or because I've been drinking and don't care.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
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I wonder, did you ever try more sensory stimulation when you smoked pot, or did it all tend to take place while just hanging out in the woods? Did you do things to make the experience interesting?

Would it have been better if you'd been doing it while watching a movie like the one I just added a clip of to the entry?

That was a weird sentence.
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From:city_of_dis
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:40 pm (UTC)
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I do drugs because they dress like sluts, and are asking for it.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:40 pm (UTC)
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Do you do them in the mouth or the ass?
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From:bart_calendar
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:40 pm (UTC)
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I used to do blow because it was an easy way to stay up if I wanted to stay out all night with my friends, but I stopped because my girlfriend got tired of me wanting to blast Metallica at 4 a.m. while she was trying to sleep.

I never found pot that interesting because it just made me paranoid and hungry. Though I did it a bit in college, because that was pretty much the center of my college's social scene.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 07:00 pm (UTC)
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How much did you do? Was it really the financial drain that so many of my ex-coke-using friends say it was?

It seems that pot (and E) still make up a lot of college scenes.
From:evil_egg
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
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I don't do drugs, nor am I addicted to anything - well, except Coca-Cola, but they took out the cocaine decades ago.

And yes I am a little afraid of them, or more specifically the way they screw around with your brain chemistry. The body can be repaired (maybe one day replaced), but once your mind's gone, that's it. And my mind's all I've got going for me, so...
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From:rick_day
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:35 pm (UTC)
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How convenient folks like you forget about Meth's little cousin Caffeine.

Oh, but I don't do drugs!


*gigglesnort*
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From:xbad_candy
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
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Well, I was on E last night. :] I also do acid, shrooms, most other ones thatm ake you trip, pot, and drink.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC)
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So what does E do for you?
What do you do when you're on it?

Is it easy for you to get where you live?
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From:kraven251
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
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I don't do them. I really have only had one curiousity, and the man that conducted the study has stopped his research.

I have never had any real desire, because some of the shit I experience on a regular basis is hard enough to accept without the possibility of being high at the time.

I am also aware that I have an addictive personality, and the step from recreation to addict is usually a state of mind, with the exception of the nasty shit that seriously hoses your brain chemistry.
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From:levityinbrevity
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:55 pm (UTC)
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WHAT THE HELL IS THE DEAL WITH YOU AND DRUGS?

If you use them, when did you start? Smoked pot for the first time when I was 13
What did you start with? Pot
Was there peer pressure involved? Nope
How old were you, where were you, had you planned it all out ahead of time? 13 with a older (26) friend and his girlfriend we were just hanging out and smoking
When did you do your first "hard" drug? 16 the same night I lost my virginity
What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us? The night I lost my virginity I tried Meth for the first time.. it wasn't really connected but its true. The real reason I lost my virginity is E&J and coke not meth. I really should have known better but I did it anyway. I then used Meth off and on for about 2 years never really getting to hard core into it but being in the drug culture it was hard not to be around people who had it sold it or used it. My mother, aunt, dad, step dad, Friends, and most of my other family all used. its hard when you are raised by white trash meth heads not to become one. But I was able to come out the other side better for the experiences and smarter too.

If you don't use 'em, then why not? I decided when I got married that i was done. DONE and after i had kids I would never do them again. My mother was a meth addict and she was neglectful because of them. plus I saw it screw up many many lives
Did you start and then stop? Yes
Are you afraid of them? YES
How do you feel when you find out that somebody you know does drugs? I think less of them
Is it different if it's a light or hard drug? Nope
Do you find yourself looking down on them or being envious? Looking down on them. Sort of... its more I look down on parents who do drugs.. single people or married people (with no kids) who use every now and then (soft drugs) I don't know that I really do.



So...pot? Y
E? once
Horse tranquilizers? N
Lickable toads? I wish I really wanted to try this.
Bone marrow samples from Keith Richards? Y but just that one time
Chemically-altered Mr. Pibb? N
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From:levityinbrevity
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:06 pm (UTC)
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Also I wanted to say everyone in my family is clean and sober now and getting there lives back. When I say everyone I mean everyone. A good portion of my family is still poor and kind of white trash but they aren't drug addicts anymore.
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From:waltzingmatthea
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
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I take a lot of drugs that are prescribed to me:
at the moment -
Topamax
Depakote
Abilify
Ativan
Ambien

But they're rearranging things right now, so it could change soon.

And I drink things with caffeine and/or alcohol in them.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 07:05 pm (UTC)
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I'm currently on Lamictal, Cymbalta, and Clonazepam, but my doc is thinking of throwin' an atypical in there somewhere...
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From:janetmiles
Date:November 20th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
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If you don't use 'em, then why not?
Did you start and then stop?
Are you afraid of them?
Do you want to start but can't figure out how?
How do you feel when you find out that somebody you know does drugs?
Do you find yourself looking down on them or being envious?
What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us?


I don't use illegal drugs or cigarettes, and I don't misuse prescription drugs or alcohol. One of the reasons I don't even want to try the illegals is that I know that I addict pretty quickly -- witness my ongoing struggles to stay off of caffeine and sugar. So, yeah, I am kind of afraid of them.

On the other hand, I'm kind of intrigued by altered states. So if it were legal, I might try marijuana. And maybe, maybe, one of the hallucinogens, if I could get someone I trusted to supervise the trip. (I actually do know a couple of folks I could ask.) I'm told that 2001: A Space Odyssey makes way more sense if you're stoned or high when you watch it. I'm kind of wary of major felonies, though, so I don't go there.

I like alcohol (which is a drug), but I'm pretty good about not misusing it. I like the taste, and I've been drunk a couple of times and it's fun, but I can pick up a perfectly good contact high without drinking anything myself. I don't drink very much or often anymore, though, because it's always seemed kind of silly to take an antidepressant and then drop a CNS depressant on top of it. Plus, the two times I did get drunk, I woke up in the morning with no hangover whatsoever, which scared the crap out of me, and there's at least two incidences of alcoholism in my family, so I'm wary about that.

Prescription drugs? I've had my share, given the car accidents I've been in. Again, though, I use them as prescribed, because I'm afraid of the risk of addiction. Closest I've come to misusing prescription drugs was a couple of years ago when my ribs and my shoulder and my wrist all started hurting (weather front, if I recall correctly) and I took one Tylenol III that had actually been prescribed for Dale after he'd gotten hurt at work. I had long since run through all of my prescription meds, and hadn't needed them for a few years, but that night I just HURT.

One thing I have found about the Good Pain Pills: having a few in the house "just in case" is a really good palliative all on its own. Knowing that there was something I could take if the pain got really bad helped keep the pain under control (probably a stress cycle thing).

My general reaction to learning that someone I know uses drugs is along the lines of, "Is it interfering with your life? No? Then not a problem." And, well, maybe some curiosity about what it's like.
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From:ztepfinat0r
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
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Ah! Prescription drugs! I totally forgot to talk about those!

I loooove prescription drugs, even though I know they are just as bad, if not worse for me in the long run.

My favourites are soma (muscle relaxer) and anything in the benzodiazepine (valium) family. In my reply to benchilada's post, I had said that my first drug use consisted of mini thins, which were over the counter 'asthma' medication. But actually, I just remembered that I was buying xanax off a friend at the club in 1994, and stealing from my dad's lifetime supply of xanax well before the mini thin use.

I'm trying to get a shrink so I can renew my lorazepam prescription, cuz my primary doc won't prescribe anymore. I don't do benzos recreationally - I do have a serious anxiety condition.
But the soma, it's niiiiice. Haven't had soma in several months, since the last time my back went out.
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From:eac
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:05 pm (UTC)
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I never did drugs in my teens or 20s because I was scared of getting caught or hurting myself and my mother was working in government job with a clearance -- it would have mattered to her work if I'd been busted. I smoked pot, like, twice in college and grad school. I found it not worth breaking the law over, and preferred alcohol and caffeine.

In my late 20s and early 30s - after my mother retired and I moved west I did E about 3 or 4 times a year at small parties with my friends.

Why? I was curious and I was adult enough to have more confidence in what I was doing. I was unhappy and bored with work. I missed being a college student who had the freedom to put everything down for whole days at a time. Ecstasy offered compressed 10 or 12 hour binges, a break in the routine and the opportunity to interact with people without feeling self-conscious. Also, freedom from the depression and anxiety which is a constant for me.

I've quit now, for the foreseeable future, for a couple of reasons:
* I had to take SSRIs for a couple of years and I think it's unwise to flush your brain with serotonin when your brain chemistry isn't really robust.
* I don't have time to take 2 days to recover from a night on E
* Most importantly, I have a daughter and I have to be competent and available for her for the next 16 years, at a minimum. And if something were to happen to me while I was high, I can't imagine what message that would sent to her about how much I value her.

There are other drugs - all hallucinogens that I'd love to try, but now just isn't the time.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
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Most importantly, I have a daughter and I have to be competent and available for her for the next 16 years, at a minimum. And if something were to happen to me while I was high, I can't imagine what message that would sent to her about how much I value her.


I always consider that to be the best possible answer to why somebody doesn't do them.

"Look, I have done them, and I'd love to do them again, but right now this small human being relies on me, and I can't even rely on me if I'm fucked up and think that the pencil drawer is my desk drawer is totally the best thing ever!"

As for getting busted, I've never really understood why people take the risk of doing stupid shit like riding a bike down the street while smoking a blunt.

YOU ARE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
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From:mlfoley
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:06 pm (UTC)
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I don't really do them because of my health concerns, my heart problems, etc. Oh and yes, because it is illegal and I am opposed to you drug using junkie hippies...!
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
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You know, I have some pills I can get you for those rage issues...
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From:songbird72884
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:06 pm (UTC)
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I've never touched drugs or even alcohol (at least not willingly/ knowingly), primarily because the vast majority of the worst things of my adult life have happened to me as a result of them. My ex raped and beat me numerous times, each time when he was high or drunk, and I found out afterwards that the main reason he got away with it is because he spiked my drinks whenever we went out anywhere, which was pretty much every day.

He was, in every sense of the word, evil, and after seeing what they did to him, and knowing how I suffered because of them, I never want to have anything to do with them.

As for other people, although I'm normally open-minded, after what happened anytime I find out someone does drugs or gets drunk a lot, I invariably lose some modicum of trust in them, simply because when someone's high or drunk, they're far less predictable and pretty much every time I've been around someone who was drunk or high, I've come away with bruises and/or cuts.
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From:eac
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
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I don't know whether this reply violates the spirit of Ben's post, but I'm very, very sorry that this has been your experience.
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From:seestephgo
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:08 pm (UTC)
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If you use them, when did you start?

The closest I've come to doing drugs is being in the same house as someone else smoking weed. I've never tried it myself and have no interest in doing so. My parents were always very anti-drug, but about half of my friends did them and my grandfather offered it to me on more than one occasion. I've just never had the desire.

I have some friends that were incredibly smart kids in high school who started smoking or doing other drugs later on and they're complete idiots now. I also have some friends who are incredibly successful who do drugs. I've seen both sides. For myself, I just see no benefit, so I see no reason to spend the money, time, etc.

I don't care if my friends do them. It doesn't make me like them any less or think any less of them. However, I generally prefer to hang out with people who don't do them, but only because I'd just rather not be around it. Because I don't do them, it would really piss me off to be caught with people who either have some of them or are under the influence of them and the cops decide to be assholes and pin it on me, as well.

Yes, I know.... If someone claims the stash, they'll only blame that person, or if you're not under the influence, they can't bust you or whatever you want to tell yourselves. This works in theory. However, I know from experience - I work at a law firm - that it does not always work that way. That said, I'd just rather not be put in a position to get in any kind of trouble for something I didn't do.

Drug story:

My 1st year in college, we had a friend that would get drunk as fuck, smoke all his weed, and then go out in the Quad and cut the grass with scissors, filling up his weed bag with it.

When he woke up the next morning, he'd bitch at all of us for stealing his weed and replacing it with grass. It took us actually videotaping him doing it for him to believe us.

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From:seestephgo
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:15 pm (UTC)
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Clarification:

I do try not to hang out with people who do them in excess. Drugs, alcohol, anything like that. Even cigarettes. One of my best friends, who was also my first love is in a coma because of them. He got high and drunk one night and fell over, just fell from standing up and hit his head. He's been in a coma for almost 6 months and I don't think he's ever going to wake up. I don't need more heartbreak.

I know that those kinds of things can happen to anyone, but I have no interest in increasing the possibility.
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From:mwissa
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:08 pm (UTC)
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I had only smoked pot as a kid. Plus cigarettes. It was there and I thought why not, so I went for it. I was hung over for 3 days and had really bad dry mouth. I didn't think it was that great.

It wasn't until college that weed really found it's place with me. I was never a huge stoner, but recreational uses were just fine for me.

Now... I do more than ever.

I ended up on the floor of a friends house one night. I was in a terrible amount of pain, I was cold sweating and going in and out of consciousness. My friends gave me some Aleve, but crushed it up for me to snort because it works faster. In 10 minutes I was doing just fine. I had never realized...

I went through a coke phase, but I never got the high everyone talked about being so awesome. I left that behind, but sometimes I still want.

Right now, it's on the weekends and when my friends and I go to concerts.
We snort Xanax, do mushrooms and smoke pot. Sometimes all at once, it depends on my mood.

I can't take Xanax orally, it leaves a terrible taste in my mouth for at least a half hour. When I get really anxious, I have to crush it up and snort it. The last time I took one orally, I dry heaved, it was such a strong chemical taste.

I did accidentally smoke crack once. It was in a joint, and the guy didn't tell me that it was laced. I only found out after the fact when I was sick as I'd ever been. I'll never do that again. It was terrible. I hated it. Most people are surprised it had that effect on me. They think it was the weed, not the rock.
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From:fairyarmadillo
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:34 pm (UTC)
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You don't get the weird chemical taste from snorting? That's the worst part about insufflants (to me), the drip taste.
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From:ztepfinat0r
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)
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I was a late bloomer to drugs - didn't start til after college. Reason being is I grew up in a cult Christian fundamentalist household, and my ma was VERY good at scare tactics and The End Is Nigh talk to keep me in line.
The thing is, my brother discovered weed and coke and all kinds of stuff during his senior year of high school. Pretty soon, there were gang members hanging out at our house, and my brother was selling. I was still anti-drug at the time...
Until I found out my boyfriend was part of this group of partiers. And he had cheated on me. With a friend.
So I lost my shit and declared that I wanted in, too. It seemed everyone except for me was doing drugs. I told people if they were going down the drain all around me, I'd go with them, because I didn't see anything past right there where I lived, and didn't forsee me ever getting out.
My brother however was protective. He informed the surrounding three counties' worth of people that if they sold any drugs to me, they'd wake up dead. I guess he had some pull, cuz I couldn't score shit.

After college, I fell in with some people I met at the goth club, and it turned out they were into psychedelics. Not only that, they were into educating people about drugs before taking them, and they were into self-betterment and reprogramming through psychedelics. That's how I found out about hyperreal.org.

I am pretty sure I tried mini thins, first. I loved mini thins. I was able to stay up all night and into the next day. Get my clubbing on, then go to work.
Then I moved on to weed, but weed and I have never been close. And I became a fan of nitrous oxide. And then progressed on to mushrooms, and from there, ecstasy.
I've never done anything other than those, sometimes in combination.

Okay there was that one time I was in the same room where people were smoking speed, and I was fascinated by their method, using tin foil and inhaling the smoke... and I accidentally got a contact high.
Holy shit, I thought I was going to have a heart attack that night when I went to bed and tried to sleep. I never want to be around speed again. I maintain that mini thins were completely different from actual speed. And so is ecstasy.

The last time I did any of the above? I can't remember. It's got to have been 3 years at the very least. So many people I used to party with have moved away, or outgrown the need for such party supplies.

Given the chance to go back and do it all over again, I'd do it all the same way again. I had a very positive group of people start me out on drugs, and I did so of my own choosing, without pressure, so I always had respect and caution for what I was doing.

The only drug story that comes to mind immediately is the time I was up in Tahoe doing shrooms, and I got lost in the bathroom. The light had burned out, so it was already a neat sensory dep experience to begin with. But then I couldn't find the door! And the bathroom was only about 4 feet by 3 feet. I remember giggling wildly that I was lost in such a small space. I treated it like a puzzle, and once I found my way out, I grinned ear to ear as I told my friends what had happened. It was a fun night.
For the most part, shrooms were my favourite drug.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 08:01 pm (UTC)
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Any reason in particular that you quit? The trouble no longer outweighs the benefits?

God, mini thins are fucking brutal. Stayed up for three and a half days on them once. I managed to stop that binge when I tried to punch one of my friends in the face for helping me when I fell on the stairs.

And hyperreal seems FASCINATING. Did you have positive learning experiences / moments from your hallucinations?
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From:daphaknee
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:12 pm (UTC)

GOD WHATEVER

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If you use them, when did you start? i guess the first time i did drugs i was like 12?
What did you start with? pot, and it sucked, i was paranoid as hell and iw as like MAN I HATE DRUGS
Was there peer pressure involved? no it was a pretty spur of the moment ting
How old were you, where were you, had you planned it all out ahead of time? we found weed in my friends brothers room, he was a dealer and he had so much of it we figured he wouldnt care if we smoked a bowl, he didnt
When did you do your first "hard" drug? what hte hell is a hard drug, do you mean like NOT weed or booze i mean theres a first time for a lot of drugs, te first time i did dmt was at UC santa cruz with like fifteen people i never met before adn then we were all best friends after that
te first time i did acid was walking around san francisco and screaming at homeless people
the first time i did mushrooms was ALSO at uc santa cruz and i was barking at people to stay off the squiggle like ruff ruff barking not barking as some kidn of metaphor
the first time i did E was oh god in this house that smelled like vagina adn the high was terrible becuase all i could think about was this funitureless apartment i was stuck in adn the rotting vagina smell

okay im bore dnow
What do you like most about your drug of choice? hallucinations
Would you stop if you could or do you wish you'd started sooner? uh neither
What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us? one time i was walking down the street in the middle of the night huffing nitrous and i passed out and fell into a pole nad hten rolled into the gutter nad hten crawled through the drive thru of a jackin the box screaming for water becuase i was in a desert
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From:daphaknee
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:13 pm (UTC)

Re: GOD WHATEVER

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for the record i still really really really really really loathe pot

i mean i dont care if people smoke it but GOD DAMN ITS THE WORST HIGH EVER

also i like painkillers
From:violet_hemlock
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:20 pm (UTC)
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I have done LOTS O' DRUGS...you name it, I done it..(except for crack/pcp/ice/crystal)

I always liked the trippy drugs, and the dileriants....(belladonna, datura...but they can kill you if you dont know what you are doing)

I had an extensive and intimate relationship with the brown horse...

Back in 2000...I cleaned up. no NOTHING....It was about 5 years of nothing, then I started to return to the things I did back home in Hawaii...

now it is just good old green, or purp comin out of cali, and thats all I need these days...

WHY? why did I do whatever I did in the past, and why do I still do some things sometimes. Well, I did what I did to both explore, push the limits of, and cope with a little thing called ...

THE HUMAN CONDITION.
From:violet_hemlock
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
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OH...and I smoked my first blunt when I was boar hunting at age 11 at the Parker Ranch on the Big Island of Hawaii. I was wearing breakdancing clothes, satin pants with zippers, FILA...jumbo laces. All my cousin loved calling me city boy....but also got me stoned for the first time.
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From:mrnihil
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
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ive never done them, but i'd like to do DMT sometime. i'm interested in hallucinations and "mystic" experiences. i might be willing to smoke salvia, but i don't have access anyway, so it doesn't matter.
From:violet_hemlock
Date:November 20th, 2008 07:20 pm (UTC)
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DMT is good.. we call it Uncle Dimitri. The best thing about it is that it is really short, and you can totally go to work the next day...
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Date:November 20th, 2008 06:27 pm (UTC)
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If you use them, when did you start?
First smoked weed in my midtwenties. XTC and acid a few years later.
What did you start with?
The Mary Jane
Was there peer pressure involved?
Nope. I actually did it because I didn’t like feeling sick from drinking.
How old were you, where were you, had you planned it all out ahead of time?
I was at my apartment and my roommates got high all the damn time, so I decided to try it.
When did you do your first "hard" drug?
I guess XTC is my “hardest” drug. I tried it in my midtwenties.
What do you like most about your drug of choice?
XTC makes you feel amazing. Absolutely amazing. It is so powerful a memory that the hair on my arms stands on end when I think of “rolling”.
Would you stop if you could or do you wish you'd started sooner?
I only did it three times. I stopped because I saw how powerfully addictive it could be.
What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us?
Don’t really have any.
Did you start and then stop?
I don’t do XTC because I’m afraid of getting addicted. I had to stop shrooms because I had a bad experience and don’t want to ever have that happen again. I usually only smoke weed on a weekend if someone comes over and is getting high and I’m in the mood, but I’d say three out of four weeks I’m clean.
Are you afraid of them?
I am afraid of mushrooms and acid. I had a BAD experience.
Do you want to start but can't figure out how?
I’ve always been curious about some other drugs, but I’m too concerned about how badly it could all turn out.
How do you feel when you find out that somebody you know does drugs?
Doesn’t really bother me.
Do you find yourself looking down on them or being envious?
Depends. I have friends who can function perfectly while stoned. There is no way I could do that
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 08:23 pm (UTC)
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Acid is one of the scariest drugs to me. Not as scary as, say, datura or belladonna, but the fact that it's made of terrifying chemicals that can fuck you in the head so hard...yeah, not what I'm looking for.
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From:autodidactic
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:27 pm (UTC)
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I'm on nine varieties of acid, ecstasy, mushrooms, good weed, ditch weed, nineteen different kinds of pills, and coffee enemas when I can sneak to the bathroom.

TODAY.

p.s. FBI, I'm kidding.
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Date:November 20th, 2008 08:29 pm (UTC)
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Edited at 2008-11-20 08:30 pm (UTC)
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From:rick_day
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:30 pm (UTC)
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WHAT THE HELL IS THE DEAL WITH YOU AND DRUGS?

If you use them, when did you start?
"UNOFFICIALLY" I took a sip of my Uncle Roy's Schlitz at age 7. Ugh.
"OFFICIALLY" April 20, 1976. At age 21, I purchased my first sack of weed and never looked back.

What did you start with? Besides alcohol or spinning myself dizzy? cannabis.

Was there peer pressure involved? Not on a personal level. It was the 70's, man.

How old were you, where were you, had you planned it all out ahead of time? 21, and yes.

When did you do your first "hard" drug? hmm, I guess that would be speed in 1979. It was the 70's, man!

What do you like most about your drug of choice? How it tasted, its impact. the act of smoking, itself, and easily available. Good excuse to go to Amsterdam.

Would you stop if you could or do you wish you'd started sooner? I can stop. I have stopped. I've stopped hundreds of times! No, I am glad I started when I was an adult.

What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us? Probably the one about sharing a phatty with Woody Harrelson at the Seattle Hempfest..

Why drugs? Because I don't trust my government to look out for my best interest. The day it becomes legal, is the day I probably stop.

OK..not really, but those words looked good in the box here....
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 08:47 pm (UTC)
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I wonder how many people have smoked pot with Woody Harrelson. It's probably like Magic Johnson and the vertical smile.

And it's always good to hear from you on topics like this.
From:aeamek
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
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Never done drugs. Never smoked ANYTHING, come to think of it. Part of it is the knowledge that if I did them--and liked how it felt--I'd never stop, because that's just how I am.
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Date:November 20th, 2008 08:48 pm (UTC)
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That's a good reason not to start right there.

Are there any that interest you, from the outside?
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From:thewalkingman
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:34 pm (UTC)
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I've done pot, acid and the odd tranquilizer. Pot I still do from time to time though not nearly with the frequency of my younger days. I bought an 8th a year ago and there's still some left, sitting up on top of my fridge.

I'd like to do acid again but I don't have the time, place or company to do it properly, so I don't see that working out.

I out of a curiosity regarding changing the way I perceive the world. Partially escapism and partially just to see what would happen. I enjoyed the feeling so I took the opportunities to smoke again as they came along. I was never the guy to get connected with a dealer and have a constant supply though. Generally, I was content to smoke along with the people around me but I rarely sought it out myself. That's still the case, really.

I like it because it makes watching TV funnier, it makes the world a little easier to tolerate. It makes music more interesting and it helps me sleep.

The acid was an experiment. Something to try. And it was awesome.

When did I do my first hard drug? Hmmm... I think I was about fourteen the first time I smoked a cigarette. It wasn't until I was 19 or 20 that I got hooked though.
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 09:10 pm (UTC)
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I like it because it makes watching TV funnier, it makes the world a little easier to tolerate. It makes music more interesting and it helps me sleep.

Well said.

And do you still smoke cigarettes?
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From:fulguritus
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:35 pm (UTC)
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So if I used to do them but don't anymore does that mean I'm disqualified to be a loser? Should this make me happy or bummed?

You sure do ask a lot of questions...

Why do you do them? I don't anymore unless it's a prescription.

Why don't you do them? I like be sober. I have so many things that alter my chemistry as it is, I'm so sensitive to foods and energy that I don't NEED any drugs to get me going.

If you use them, when did you start? I started when I was 15.

What did you start with? Acid

Was there peer pressure involved? No

How old were you, where were you, had you planned it all out ahead of time?
I told you already, 15. I was at my Catholic high school and me and my bff had it a little planned.

When did you do your first "hard" drug? Hard? What's hard? Uh...I don't know if- wait I smoked opium once so...7 years ago or so?

What do you like most about your drug of choice? Xanax is now my drug of choice and I like that it stops panic attacks and makes me more mellow.

Would you stop if you could or do you wish you'd started sooner? Neither. I've stopped most everything. I don't even like drinking much. And 15 was young enough -and old enough.

What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us? Burning Man was a little better on LSD.

If you don't use 'em, then why not? I like sobriety.

Did you start and then stop? Several times.

Are you afraid of them? Somewhat, trips aren't always going to be what you expect. So things can change and you might be unable to deal.

Do you want to start but can't figure out how? No. Haha.

How do you feel when you find out that somebody you know does drugs? Disinterested in the information. I assume everyone does.(though I'm totally wrong.)

Do you find yourself looking down on them or being envious? neither

What's that one drug story that you just have to tell us? I've had a fun life, not so fun that I've stripped my neurons or lost my ability to reproduce or anything. I've got lots of stories. Many memorable times.

So...pot? Done it
E? Done it
Horse tranquilizers? Done it
Lickable toads? Ew
Bone marrow samples from Keith Richards? Dear God.
Chemically-altered Mr. Pibb? Not to my recollection.

Any questions for me Mr Curious?
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 09:13 pm (UTC)
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I'm not sure I would want something that takes the edge off too much, as it seems Xanax does, but I could be wrong.

I assume everyone does.

Yeah, I sometimes do that, too.

Any questions for me Mr Curious?

Yes, seriously, how does one get a nipple caught in a door?
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From:mrdave2176
Date:November 20th, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
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I've not used non-prescription/illegal drugs in about 20 years.

But when I did it was mostly out of boredom.
Pot (a few dozen times), LSD (a few times), psilocybin (once), pcp (once)

Pot was easy to come by. But when I realized the calibre of people I had to hang out with to get it, I kind of lost interest. They were more boring than being straight since all they could think about was their next high.

LSD was pretty cool and I enjoyed it a lot, but it was very lonely - even when I had a lot of people around me - since my brain would ben in on itself in a Mandelbrot set of strangeness and leave everything else behind. Psilocyben was much the same.

I didn't know I was smoking the PCP when I smoked it until after it was too late. It made me paranoid and I had a midnight confession to Jesus in a graveyard in the middle of nowhere. Never again.

I finally realized that drugs didn't do anything to make my life any better and generally they just made my life worse. I phased them out like I phased out drinking myself to oblivion and jerking off every night.

Now if I could only convince myself that the same is true of internet porn I'll be set. :)
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From:benchilada
Date:November 20th, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)
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You...don't jerk off every night?

BOGGLES.

Oh, why is it that so many people have HORRIBLE experiences with PCP? Why do people do it after hearing these horror stories?

I never thought of tripping drugs being lonely. Wonder how you'd do on a "shared trip" drug like DMT if others were involved.
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